Hello everyone, today, we are going to have a look at what Russian players AndrasD and Devilhunter did to find out the camo value of vehicles in game. Original thread can be found here, but I won’t put everything they wrote here (it’s some very detailed analysis), I will stick to the most important parts. To begin with, in 0.8.6 the camo system changed somewhat and old camo values could no longer be applied (the factor got hidden even for the tanks we already knew the camo factor of). That meant that datamining was no longer viable in order to find what type of camouflage that respective tank has. That left testing as the only real option. The players mentioned above thus devised a following system – I won’t pretend that I understand how exactly it works, but the general idea is following: You take the viewrange of a vehicle (please keep in mind however that maximum spotting range is 445m), you deduct 50 meters from it (the range where you get spotted automatically) and the rest, you apply the “camo percentage bonus on” (or camo factor) by deducting the percentage from the (viewrange – 50m). Basically, if a vehicle has a standing camo factor of say 10 percent and you are spotting with a 350 viewrange tank, that means the vehicle will under ideal conditions, you first deduct 50m: you are left with 300 – and then reduce the 300 by ten percent. In other words, you’ll spot the vehicle at 320m instead. That’s of course without camo net, bushes and all that other stuff. In reality, it’s much more complicated than that, so the following tables are meant only to show you what vehicle has relatively good camo and how its camo does compared to, say, Panzer IV or other vehicles of its tier – or how shooting influences the camo factor (note that for example standing WT RhB has very good camo factor like StuG, but when it shoots, it drops significantly). Japanese tank camo is at the end of the list, Soviet new med camo is there too. All camo measured for top gun and top turret. Germany Type * Tier * * Name * * * * * * * * * Standing * * *Moving * * * Shooting * Gun LТ * * *1 * * * Leichttraktor * * * * * * *13,4% * * * * 10,1% * * * * *3,4% * * * 3,7 cm KwK 36 L/46.5 LТ * * *2 * * * Pz.Kpfw. 38H 735 (f) * * * 15,7% * * * * 11,8% * * * * *4,0% * * * 3,7 cm SA 38 L/34 LТ * * *2 * * * Pz.Kpfw. II * * * * * * * *15,1% * * * * 11,3% * * * * *3,4% * * * 2 cm Flak 38 L/112 LТ * * *2 * * * Pz.Kpfw. I * * * * * * * * 16,2% * * * * 12,1% * * * * *3,8% * * * 2 cm Breda LТ * * *2 * * * Pz.Kpfw. 35 (t) * * * * * *15,2% * * * * 11,4% * * * * *3,9% * * * 3,7 cm KwK 38 (t) L/47 LТ * * *3 * * * T-15 * * * * * * * * * * * 19,7% * * * * 19,7% * * * * *5,9% * * * 3,7 cm KwK 38 (t) L/47 LТ * * *3 * * * Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. J * * * *17,4% * * * * 13,1% * * * * *4,9% * * * 2 cm KwK 38 L/55J LТ * * *3 * * * Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t) * * * * * *18,0% * * * * 13,5% * * * * *5,2% * * * 4,7 cm PaK 38 (t) L/43 LТ * * *3 * * * Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. A * * * 18,0% * * * * 18,0% * * * * *5,2% * * * 5 cm KwK 38 L/42 LТ * * *3 * * * Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. G * * * *18,6% * * * * 18,6% * * * * *3,9% * * * 3 cm M.K. 103 LТ * * *3 * * * Pz.Kpfw. I Ausf. C * * * * 19,0% * * * * 19,0% * * * * *5,3% * * * 7,92 mm Mauser E.W. 141 LТ * * *4 * * * Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t) n.A. * * * 17,6% * * * * 17,6% * * * * *4,6% * * * 5 cm KwK 39 L/60 LТ * * *4 * * * Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs * * * * *17,1% * * * * 17,1% * * * * *3,6% * * * 3 cm M.K. 103 LТ * * *5 * * * VK 16.02 Leopard * * * * * 16,9% * * * * 16,9% * * * * *3,5% * * * 3 cm M.K. 103 LТ * * *6 * * * VK 28.01 * * * * * * * * * 14,3% * * * * 14,3% * * * * *3,0% * * * 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28 LТ * * *7 * * * Aufklärungspanzer Panther *10,9% * * * * 10,9% * * * * *2,8% * * * 7,5/5,5 cm Waffe 0725 MТ * * *3 * * * Pz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f) * * * 14,3% * * * * 10,7% * * * * *4,1% * * * 4,7 cm SA 35 L/34 MТ * * *4 * * * Pz.Kpfw. III * * * * * * * 16,4% * * * * 12,3% * * * * *4,5% * * * 5 cm KwK 39 L/60 MТ * * *4 * * * VK 20.01 (D) * * * * * * * 15,9% * * * * 11,9% * * * * *4,4% * * * 5 cm KwK 39 L/60 MТ * * *5 * * * T-25 * * * * * * * * * * * 13,1% * * * * 9,8% * * * * * 3,4% * * * 7,5 cm A18 KwK MТ * * *5 * * * Pz.Kpfw. III/IV * * * * * *14,0% * * * * 10,5% * * * * *3,5% * * * 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/48 MТ * * *5 * * * Pz.Kpfw. IV * * Continue reading →

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