Hello everyone, today, we are going to have a quick (not an in-depth) look at some vehicles, that could become American premium TD’s. Most of these were mentioned earlier and possible candidates. They say that there are no “suitable” candidates for the American tank destroyer – well… technically there are plenty, but they all have some issues. It’s worth keeping in mind that currently, the position of Wargaming regarding premium vehicles is following: - lowtier vehicles are sort of “reserved” for giveaways and rewards - midtier vehicles are considered primarily for mission rewards (yes, more missions with tank rewards are coming) - hightier vehicles are considered for “regular premium” slots, because they earn Wargaming the most money As such, the priority of the implementation is obvious: the higher the candidate, the better. Let’s have a look at the candidates I could think of. Keep also another thing in mind: some of these have already been rejected and with some, I have no idea what the problem is with them. T24 Gun Motor Carriage The T24 was a proposal to mount a 3in (76mm) AA gun on the M3 Medium (Lee) chassis as an interim tank destroyer in September 1941. One prototype was built. Historically, it had very poor depression and elevation (-2/+15) and was too high (gun traverse was okay though, 16,5 degrees to each side). The gun was then removed and the prototype was converted to the T40. Officially, the project was cancelled in April 1942. As you can see on the picture above, the model already exists in the game and existed for a very, very long time (T24 was one of the first premium TD’s ever mentioned as candidates). Why didn’t they introduce it in the first place? I don’t know. What I know is that Wargaming is still aware of this design and it might appear one day, but its low tier (3?) makes it a poor option for America’s first premium tank destroyer. T53 Gun Motor Carriage T53 GMC was another early tank destroyer proposal. In 1942, an attempt was made to create a powerful tank destroyer by putting the 90mm AA gun on the M4 chassis. In August 1942, 500 of these things were ordered (with 3500 more being contemplated), but the Tank Destroyer command hated it, considering it a “crude conversion”. T53E1 (a modified version, the lower picture) was even worse (poor stability, poor handling, the engine overheated and the crew was practically unprotected) and as a result of the tests fiasco, the entire order was cancelled and the project was scrapped. The source of the above As you can see, there are two possible models of this vehicle (T53 and T53E1) – and that’s a problem. You see, vehicles, that have various turret/hull options are usually saved for “regular” slots, because such vehicles are hard to come by. These elements do pose a problem actually, otherwise, the T53 would be a suitable candidate (yes, Wargaming knows about it). T88 Howitzer Motor Carriage The T88 was an attempt to equip the US Army with an extremely mobile 105mm howitzer by mounting it on a Hellcat chassis. Unlike the previous two designs, there was nothing inherently wrong with it, but it came too late – a prototype was tested in late 1945, but then there was no real need for such a vehicle and the project got cancelled. From WOT perspective, the T88 was actually strongly considered. The icon and official description were leaked and they do exist, but somehow, it was never implemented. The biggest problem with the T88 is that it was not a tank destroyer. It was designated as a HMC (howitzer motor carriage) – what that means is that unlike the GMC vehicles, it was basically an artillery vehicle. There is a strong sentiment on US forums that there is no real need to introduce more mismatched classes (for example, T57 artillery in the game was in real life a tank destroyer, but the sealclubbing T18 was actually an artillery vehicle). Considering that The_Chieftain is one of the supporters of this idea, it’s likely the T88 was blocked based on these grounds. There is a chance we might still see it, if nothing better is found though. A prototype still sits in Aberdeen. 90mm Hellcat No real photo exists here. Basically, not so long ago, Chieftain mentioned a post-war proposal to arm the Hellcat with a 90mm gun in its original turret (unlike the ingame 90mm Hellcat, that really is a Jackson turret on Hellcat chassis – yes, that existed in real life). Its main disadvantage is that nothing is known about it, no plans, no drawings, nada. It would be easy to implement (since the Hellcat model already exists), but the fact it would be just a Hellcat copy (that already is in the game), this doesn’t make the vehicle likely to appear. T4 Gun Motor Carriage As the picture description says, the T4 was a proposal to put a high-power 105mm gun on a light universal chassis. This project never passed beyond the proposal stage (“it would be cool, if…”), making it no more historical than for example the Jagdpanzer E-100. No detailed characteristics exist and it’s a real question, whether we really need another vehicle, that is mostly fictional. T42 Gun Motor Carriage T42 was a T49 (the ingame TD) predecessor project – it was armed with a 37mm gun. Priory_of_Sion wrote in his post a long time ago: In late 1941 development of the T42 began as a GMC version of the T9(which became the M22 Locust). By the end of its development it evolved into a vehicle with Christie suspension and a new hull. The gun was to be the 37 mm but I would like to have something more for the T42, it would be nice to see the 37 mm w/ the Little John Adapter as the T42′s top gun with ~90-100 mm of penetration. IRL it was unable to mount a 57 mm gun and the T49 project was started in Jan. 1942 due to that. Generally, this is another lowtier project and I really don’t think we need this as the first American TD – but it’s an option. If you want to read more about these obscure things, I suggest the aforementioned post by Priory_of_Sion. T78 Gun Motor Carriage Don’t be mistaken by the picture above – this vehicle’s model does not exist, this is a mod created by a US forum member ramp4ge. The T78 was a July 1943 project to arm the Chaffee chassis with a 90mm gun in a M36 turret. By that time however, the Chaffee was Continue reading →

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