For the Record: Building the AMX-30 Branch
Hello everyone, as you probably already realized, the French tree is possibly the most neglected tree in World of Tanks. Of course, there is a reason for that and we’ll get to that, but for now, we have some good news: the AMX-30 branch (or “branch”, you’ll see) is scheduled to come in 2015, as was previously confirmed by Storm. So, the will to improve the French is there, but the real question is: is it even possible? There is a reason the French branch was neglected. The reason is: “insufficient data”. While it might seem odd to you, considering the French were very active in their armor research after the war, there are very few candidates for the hightier medium tank positions – and by very few, I mean none at all. Let’s have a look at the branch itself then. This above is the first (and last) concept of the AMX-30 branch, as it was disclosed two years ago. Most AMX-30 branch player proposals incorporate this sort of line in them. I asked around how viable this concept is now, two years later and the answer was – not at all. This will simply not happen. The main reasons for that is that G1P on tier 7 would have to be overbuffed and that AMX-45 is a heavy tank, not a medium. As a “bonus”, very little is known about it and generally noone really likes this kind of setup. In order to build a fullblown branch, we’d have to look for alternatives for tier 7-8 and there are unfortunately none, at least nothing that would be well known or fitting (ironically, there is a SHITLOAD of candidates for tier 4-6 – apart from the missing Somua S35, there were many G program projects such as the G1L, G1P and such). The only thing that comes to my mind as an alternative would be to “redesignate” the AMX tank destroyer project to a medium tank, but as you can imagine, noone is really keen on doing that either (besides, WG already apparently has another plans for that project). To sum it up, there is practically no way how to build the AMX-30 branch. So, what I think will happen is this: AMX-13/90 line will be prolonged to tier 10 as such: AMX-13/75, AMX-13/90, AMX-30 Prototype and AMX-30. Wargaming could actually avoid the awkward “prototype” by introducing AMX-13/105 on tier 9 – as a medium tank (!), to “cheat” the “no tier 9 LT” demand. Of course, it might sound a bit strange, but consider this: some armies (notably the Swiss) considered the AMX-13 to be a tank destroyer, not a light tank, so a little “re-designation” is not that unhistorical. But that’s of course not likely. The AMX-30 prototype itself – there were several stages and – unlike with the Leopard prototype, Wargaming has enough material to create at least one, specifically the AMX-30A. Some time ago, pictures were published on FTR of the only surviving prototype at Saumur, but there are other stages as well, for example this one – this is the first prototype: This is the second prototype: They all have 105mm guns apparently so that might be a problem, but overall, I do believe there is enough graphical material to created the prototype AMX-30 correctly. As for the AMX-30B on tier 10, I guess we could get the 0-series or 1-series vehicle, that looks like this (again, photos by Dr.Pikouz): Unfortunately, the cold truth is that unlike with the British (or German and Soviet) vehicles, Wargaming does not have anyone “digging” the archives for cool stuff or running around, measuring vehicles’ armor and has to rely on books, photographs and internet info. If someone was interested in digging some French archives, Wargaming would certainly find a way to compensate him for the trouble – in case you are such a person, do write me via e-mail, please – or use the contact form here in the blog. I can arrange a contact.